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History of Medicaid Eligibility and Work Requirements for Able-Bodied Applicants

Medicaid, established in 1965 under Title XIX of the Social Security Act, is a joint federal-state program providing health coverage primarily to low-income individuals, including children, pregnant women, parents, seniors, and people with disabilities. For most of its history, Medicaid eligibility has been based on income, family status, or disability, with no requirement for employment or work-related activities.

Introduction of Work Requirements:

•  Pre-2017: Medicaid did not impose work requirements as a condition of eligibility. Eligibility was primarily determined by income thresholds, categorical requirements (e.g., pregnancy, disability, or parenthood), or enrollment through programs like Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Work requirements were more common in other social programs, such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), which influenced later Medicaid policy debates.

•  First Trump Administration (2017–2021): The concept of work requirements for Medicaid emerged prominently during this period. In 2018, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) issued guidance allowing states to apply for Section 1115 waivers to implement work requirements, also referred to as “community engagement” requirements, for certain Medicaid enrollees. These requirements typically mandated that working-age adults (ages 19–64) not meeting exemptions (e.g., disability, pregnancy, caregiving) engage in work, volunteering, education, or job training for a minimum number of hours (often 80 hours per month or 20 hours per week).

•  State Implementation: Between 2017 and 2021, CMS approved work requirement waivers for 13 states. Arkansas was the first to implement such a policy in 2018, requiring able-bodied adults in its Arkansas Works program to report 80 hours of qualifying activities monthly. Noncompliance led to over 18,000 people losing coverage, many of whom were eligible but faced administrative barriers like complex reporting systems, lack of internet access, or confusion about requirements.

•  Legal and Practical Challenges: Most approved waivers were never implemented due to legal challenges, court rulings, or the economic disruptions of the COVID-19 pandemic. Federal courts struck down several waivers (e.g., in Arkansas and Kentucky), citing that work requirements undermined Medicaid’s core objective of providing health coverage. The Biden administration rescinded all remaining waivers in 2021.

•  Biden Administration (2021–2025): The Biden administration opposed work requirements, arguing they created barriers to coverage without significantly increasing employment. By 2021, all work requirement waivers were either rescinded or withdrawn by states, except in Georgia, where a waiver persisted after legal challenges. Georgia’s “Pathways to Coverage” program, implemented in 2023, uniquely required low-income applicants to demonstrate 80 hours of work or qualifying activities before enrolling, unlike other states that applied requirements to existing enrollees.

•  Second Trump Administration (2025–Present): Recent proposals indicate a revival of work requirements. In February 2025, a House Republican draft budget and the Limit, Save, Grow Act (H.R. 2811) proposed mandating work requirements for able-bodied adults aged 19–55 without dependents, aiming to reduce federal Medicaid spending by $100–120 billion over 10 years. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated these policies would lead to significant coverage losses (4.6–5.2 million enrollees) without increasing employment. As of May 2025, new legislation mandates 80 hours of community engagement per month for able-bodied adults, effective no later than December 31, 2026, with states like Iowa, South Carolina, and Utah pursuing amendments to their Medicaid programs.

Impact on Able-Bodied Applicants:

•  Data consistently shows that most able-bodied Medicaid enrollees already work or face barriers to employment. In 2023, 92% of Medicaid adults aged 19–64 were either working (64%), attending school, caregiving, or unable to work due to illness or disability. Only 8% reported being unemployed without qualifying exemptions.

•  Work requirements have not significantly increased employment but have led to coverage losses due to administrative burdens, such as complex reporting systems, lack of awareness, or limited access to technology. In Arkansas, for example, many eligible enrollees lost coverage due to confusion or inability to navigate online reporting portals.

•  Critics argue that work requirements add costly red tape and disproportionately harm vulnerable groups, including those with unstable employment or limited resources. Supporters claim they promote personal responsibility and reduce program costs.

Disability Determination for Disabled Poor Unable to Work

Medicaid Eligibility for People with Disabilities:

•  Over 10 million people qualify for Medicaid based on a disability, with 6.2 million not dually eligible for Medicare. Most qualify through SSI, which automatically confers Medicaid eligibility in 35 states and the District of Columbia. SSI uses a stringent definition of disability: a medically determinable physical or mental impairment preventing substantial gainful activity for at least 12 months.

•  Other disability pathways include optional state programs like the medically needy option, poverty-level coverage, or special income level pathways, which allow individuals with incomes or assets above SSI limits to qualify by meeting the same disability criteria.

•  Many individuals with disabilities qualify for Medicaid through non-disability pathways (e.g., low-income adults under the Affordable Care Act expansion). These enrollees may have functional limitations but not an official SSI disability determination, making them potentially subject to work requirements unless exempted.

Proving Disability for Exemptions:

•  Exemption Challenges: Work requirement policies typically exempt individuals with disabilities, but proving disability status can be burdensome. Enrollees must often provide medical documentation or navigate a “medically frail” determination process, which may not adequately identify all functional limitations. For example, in Arkansas, people with disabilities who did not receive SSI faced barriers in obtaining exemptions due to inadequate state resources and complex processes.

•  SSI Disability Determination Process: For those seeking SSI-based Medicaid eligibility, the Social Security Administration (SSA) requires extensive medical evidence to confirm disability, often involving multiple levels of adjudication. This process can take months or even years, delaying access to coverage. During this period, applicants may not be exempt from work requirements if enrolled through non-disability pathways.

•  Administrative Burdens: Even with exemptions, disabled individuals may struggle to comply with reporting requirements due to limited mobility, literacy barriers, or lack of access to transportation or internet. States often lack sufficient staff or systems to process exemptions efficiently, leading to coverage losses among eligible individuals.

•  Impact on Non-SSI Disabled Enrollees: Approximately 57% of Medicaid adults with disabilities nationally do not receive SSI, meaning they may face work requirements unless they successfully prove exemption status. This group includes individuals with conditions like chronic illnesses or mental health disorders that impair work but don’t meet SSI’s strict criteria.

Specific Examples:

•  California’s 250% Working Disabled Program: This program allows working individuals with disabilities to retain Medi-Cal (California’s Medicaid) with incomes up to 250% of the federal poverty level. While it requires work, there’s no minimum hour threshold, and participants must meet SSA’s disability definition. This contrasts with stricter work requirements in states like Georgia.

•  Georgia’s Pathways Program: Unlike other states, Georgia requires work hours before enrollment, disproportionately affecting low-income individuals with undiagnosed or undocumented disabilities who cannot easily prove exemption status.

Summary

Medicaid work requirements for able-bodied adults are a relatively recent policy, introduced primarily during the first Trump administration (2017–2021) through state waivers, with only Arkansas and Georgia implementing them. These policies have faced significant opposition and legal challenges, with evidence suggesting they cause coverage losses without boosting employment. For the disabled poor unable to work, proving disability to secure exemptions or qualify through SSI is often required but can be a lengthy and complex process, leaving many vulnerable to administrative barriers and coverage loss. Current proposals as of 2025 signal a potential expansion of work requirements, raising concerns about their impact on both able-bodied and disabled enrollees.

If you need more details or specific state-level policies, let me know!

Your suggestion about providing social workers and nurse caseworkers to assist overwhelmed Medicaid applicants, particularly for disability determinations, is a practical approach to reducing administrative barriers. Below, I’ll address how this could streamline the process, the role of medical records and employer reports in disability validation, and the relevance of healthcare access through clinics, urgent care, or hospitals under the Hill-Burton Act, including nonprofit designation requirements.

Streamlining Disability Determination with Social Workers and Nurse Caseworkers

•  Role of Social Workers and Nurse Caseworkers: Assigning dedicated professionals to assist applicants can significantly reduce the time and complexity of proving disability for Medicaid eligibility or work requirement exemptions. Social workers can help gather necessary documentation (e.g., medical records, employer reports, or income verification), explain requirements, and navigate reporting systems. Nurse caseworkers, with clinical expertise, can assess functional limitations, review medical histories, and coordinate with healthcare providers to validate disability claims. In-person visits, as you note, could take as little as one hour per applicant if streamlined, compared to the months-long Social Security Administration (SSA) disability determination process for Supplemental Security Income (SSI)-linked Medicaid eligibility.

•  Process Efficiency: A one-hour visit could involve:

•  Reviewing the applicant’s medical history and current health status.

•  Requesting medical records from providers (e.g., primary care physicians, specialists, or hospitals).

•  Collecting employer reports, if applicable, to document work limitations or inability to engage in substantial gainful activity (SGA, defined by SSA as earning over $1,550/month for non-blind individuals in 2025).

•  Assisting with exemption forms for work requirements or completing SSI/Medicaid applications.

•  Connecting applicants to resources like transportation or internet access to comply with reporting.

•  Impact: Studies, such as those from the Kaiser Family Foundation (2023), show that administrative barriers (e.g., complex paperwork, lack of awareness) lead to coverage losses, even among eligible individuals. In Arkansas’s 2018 work requirement program, 18,000 enrollees lost coverage due to reporting issues, many of whom were disabled but struggled to prove exemptions. Dedicated caseworkers could mitigate these issues, ensuring eligible applicants, especially those with disabilities, retain coverage.

Requesting Medical Records and Employer Reports

•  Medical Records: These are critical for proving disability under Medicaid or SSI criteria, which require a medically determinable impairment preventing SGA for at least 12 months. Social workers can coordinate with healthcare providers to obtain records, such as diagnoses, treatment histories, or functional assessments (e.g., mobility or cognitive limitations). Nurse caseworkers can interpret these records to confirm alignment with SSA’s disability standards or state-specific “medically frail” exemptions for work requirements.

•  Employer Reports: For applicants with recent work history, employer reports can document job performance issues, accommodations, or termination due to disability-related limitations. These reports strengthen claims of inability to work, especially for non-SSI pathways where applicants must prove exemption from work requirements. Social workers can facilitate obtaining these documents, reducing the burden on applicants who may lack the resources or knowledge to do so.

•  Challenges: Obtaining records can be delayed by provider backlogs or applicant barriers (e.g., no primary care provider, transportation issues). Caseworkers could use telehealth or mobile clinics to bridge gaps, ensuring timely validation.

Healthcare Access for Disability Validation

To validate disability, applicants often need recent medical evaluations, which can be accessed through various healthcare settings:

•  Health Clinics: Community health centers, like Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs), provide low-cost or free care to low-income individuals, including diagnostic services to document disabilities. These clinics are ideal for applicants without established providers, offering primary care and referrals to specialists.

•  Urgent Care: Urgent care facilities can provide quick evaluations for acute symptoms or injuries that contribute to disability. However, they may lack the continuity needed for comprehensive disability documentation, making them a secondary option.

•  Hospital Services under the Hill-Burton Act: The Hill-Burton Act of 1946 requires certain hospitals receiving federal construction funds to provide free or reduced-cost care to low-income patients unable to pay. As of 2025, approximately 130 hospitals nationwide remain Hill-Burton obligated. These facilities can offer diagnostic services, specialist consultations, or hospital records critical for disability determinations. Applicants can access these services to obtain medical evidence, though availability depends on the hospital’s capacity and funding.

Nonprofit Designation Requirements under the Hill-Burton Act

•  Hill-Burton and Nonprofit Status: To receive Hill-Burton funds, hospitals must maintain nonprofit status, defined as operating under 501(c)(3) tax-exempt designation by the IRS. This requires:

•  Operating exclusively for charitable, scientific, or educational purposes.

•  Providing a “community benefit,” such as uncompensated care, health education, or community outreach.

•  Complying with Hill-Burton obligations, including offering a specific amount of free or low-cost care annually (typically 10% of federal assistance received or the lesser of $10,000–$100,000, adjusted for inflation).

•  Relevance to Medicaid Applicants: Hill-Burton facilities can serve as a resource for disabled applicants needing medical evaluations to prove eligibility or exemptions. However, applicants must verify a hospital’s Hill-Burton status, as obligations may lapse after 20 years unless renewed. The Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) maintains a list of obligated facilities at https://www.hrsa.gov/hill-burton.

•  Limitations: Not all nonprofit hospitals are Hill-Burton obligated, and nonprofit status alone doesn’t guarantee free care. Applicants may still face costs if they exceed income thresholds or if the hospital has met its annual obligation.

Practical Considerations

•  Implementation: States could integrate social worker and nurse caseworker support into Medicaid offices, community health centers, or mobile outreach programs. For example, California’s Medi-Cal program partners with community organizations to assist with enrollment, a model that could be expanded to include disability validation.

•  Cost-Benefit: While hiring caseworkers involves upfront costs, it could reduce administrative errors and coverage losses, saving states money long-term. A 2023 CBO report estimated that work requirements increase administrative costs by $2,000–$4,000 per disenrolled beneficiary due to processing and appeals.

•  Equity Impact: In-person support would particularly benefit rural applicants, those with limited internet access, or individuals with disabilities facing mobility or literacy barriers. For example, 20% of Medicaid enrollees in 2023 reported difficulty accessing online portals, a key barrier in states like Arkansas.

Summary

Offering social workers and nurse caseworkers for in-person assistance could streamline Medicaid disability determinations, reducing validation time to as little as one hour by coordinating medical records and employer reports. Healthcare access through clinics, urgent care, or Hill-Burton hospitals provides critical documentation, with Hill-Burton facilities tied to nonprofit status and community benefit requirements. This approach could minimize coverage losses, especially for disabled applicants unable to navigate complex systems, and aligns with evidence that most Medicaid enrollees already work or face significant barriers.

If you’d like me to explore specific state programs, cost estimates, or implementation strategies further, let me know!

I wrote this fictional story about my role as a Nurse Case Manager for home based, Vermonters eligible for nursing home eligible for Medicaid Waiver.

Hope You like it, Buddy.

https://traveloguefortheuniverse.blogspot.com/2010/08/case-management-in-robert-frost-country.html

I read your fictional story, Case Management in Robert Frost Country, from your blog, and it’s a heartfelt piece, Buddy! I love how you wove the Vermont landscape—those dirt roads, maple trees, and Robert Frost’s poetic spirit—into the narrative of your role as a Nurse Case Manager. The way you describe balancing the needs of elderly Vermonters eligible for Medicaid Home and Community-Based Services (HCBS) waivers with the realities of rural life is vivid and engaging. It paints a clear picture of the challenges and rewards of ensuring folks can stay in their homes instead of moving to nursing homes.

Here’s a quick reflection on your story in the context of your earlier question about Medicaid, disability, and case management, while keeping it concise and spoiler-free for anyone who wants to read it themselves:

•  Nurse Case Manager Role: Your story captures the essence of a nurse case manager’s work—coordinating care, assessing needs, and advocating for clients. In Vermont’s Medicaid HCBS waiver program (like the Choices for Care program), case managers ensure that nursing home-eligible individuals receive services like home health aides, meal delivery, or adaptive equipment. Your depiction of navigating rural Vermont to visit clients aligns with the real-world need for in-person support, as I noted earlier, to streamline processes like disability validation or exemption reporting.

•  Vermont’s Medicaid Context: Vermont’s HCBS waivers, part of its Medicaid program, prioritize keeping disabled or elderly individuals in their communities. Your story highlights the human side of this—clients’ pride in their independence and the logistical hurdles of rural care (e.g., dirt roads, isolation). This ties to the administrative barriers discussed earlier, where caseworkers can make a difference by simplifying documentation or connecting clients to healthcare providers for disability assessments.

•  Emotional Depth: The Robert Frost references add a poetic layer, reflecting the resilience and simplicity of your clients’ lives. It’s a great touch that underscores the dignity of those you serve, especially when navigating complex systems like Medicaid.

Since you asked about the history of Medicaid work requirements and disability determinations, your story complements those themes by showing how case managers bridge gaps for vulnerable populations. In Vermont, work requirements haven’t been a major issue for HCBS waiver recipients, as most are elderly or disabled and thus exempt. However, your narrative hints at the broader challenge of ensuring access to care, which resonates with the need for efficient processes (like the one-hour in-person visits you proposed) to validate needs without burdening clients.

If you want feedback on specific elements of the story (e.g., characters, themes, or style) or ideas for expanding it, let me know! I could also dig into Vermont’s Medicaid waiver program details or suggest how your fictional case manager might handle real-world scenarios like disability documentation or Hill-Burton hospital access. What do you think, Buddy? 😊

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Atlantis and Lemuria are fascinating topics that straddle the line between history, myth, and speculation. Let’s break it down:

Atlantis is the more famous of the two, first mentioned by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato around 360 BCE in his dialogues Timaeus and Critias. He described it as a powerful, advanced island civilization that fell out of favor with the gods and sank into the sea after a catastrophic event. Plato placed it “beyond the Pillars of Hercules” (often interpreted as the Strait of Gibraltar), but he might’ve been using it as a fictional allegory to make a point about hubris and ideal societies. No hard archaeological evidence has ever been found to confirm Atlantis as a real, historical place. Over time, it’s become a magnet for theories—some say it could’ve been inspired by real events like the volcanic eruption that devastated Santorini (Thera) around 1600 BCE, while others think it’s pure myth. Today, it’s mostly considered a legendary tale, though explorers and dreamers keep searching.

Lemuria’s story is a bit different. It started as a scientific hypothesis in the 19th century, not an ancient legend. Zoologist Philip Sclater proposed it in 1864 to explain why lemur fossils and related species were found in both Madagascar and India but not in between. He suggested a now-sunken landmass in the Indian Ocean once connected the two. Geologists later debunked this with plate tectonics—continents drift, no lost continent required. But the idea stuck around, and mystics like Madame Blavatsky ran with it, turning Lemuria into a spiritual lost world in Theosophical writings, complete with advanced ancient civilizations. Like Atlantis, there’s no solid evidence it ever existed as a real place, and it’s largely seen as a mix of outdated science and esoteric myth.

So, are they real? Based on what we know—probably not. No sunken cities or continents matching their descriptions have turned up in the archaeological or geological record. But as myths? Absolutely. They’ve captured imaginations for centuries, inspiring stories, pseudoscience, and endless “what ifs.” What do you think—do you lean toward hidden history or epic storytelling?

My Mother attended a metaphysics group in Edwardsville Illinois in the 1970’s.

I went a couple of times and wish I had been to more. She talked about Edgar Cayce a lot. There were some in the wider metaphysics society who could access the Akashic record. I had a “health reading” done. They also did life readings.

Mom said They read My Mom and Dad were 2 parts of a whole. They had come together in Lemuria, “Mu” for short. She said 2 people who really love one another met in Mu and are forever together. Where was I? 😎

That’s a beautiful and wild story—your mom’s metaphysics group sounds like it was a treasure trove of cosmic ideas! Edgar Cayce, the “Sleeping Prophet,” was a huge figure in those circles. He claimed to tap into the Akashic Records—this supposed ethereal library of all human history and souls’ journeys—while in a trance state. Cayce often spoke of Atlantis and Lemuria (or “Mu”) as real, ancient civilizations where souls lived before reincarnating into our time. Your mom’s group clearly vibed with that, weaving it into their readings.

The idea of your parents as two halves of a whole, meeting in Lemuria and destined to reunite, is straight out of that mystical playbook. Cayce and others in the metaphysical scene—like the Theosophists who popularized Mu—loved the notion of soulmates tied across lifetimes, especially in these lost worlds. Lemuria, in their lore, wasn’t just a sunken land but a spiritual paradise, a place of harmony before humanity’s fall into denser, messier times. Your mom’s belief in that eternal bond is pretty romantic—two souls finding each other across eons, from Mu to Edwardsville.

As for where you were in all this? Well, if we’re playing with the metaphysics angle, maybe you were there too! Cayce’s readings often placed people in past lives tied to these ancient places—maybe you were a Lemurian kid jamming on a prehistoric guitar, or a cosmic traveler who’d show up later to keep the family vibe going. 😎 Did your “health reading” or any life readings hint at your own past-life adventures? I bet the group had some thoughts on where your soul’s been rocking out before now! What do you make of it all, looking back?

Mom and I both are believers. Lewis Spence’s books renewed my exploration of the Sunken Continents. I found these newspaper clippings in a used book that found Me. It is biblical, isn’t it? Fall from Grace? The great flood. The polar ice caps melted. Noah’s ark? Spaceship or high Mountain caves and structures for survivors? Plato and Socrates fascinate me no end. Oh the treasures sure to be buried If the Earth swallowed whole civilizations? Coffee break.

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Wow, you’ve really dived deep into the mystery of Atlantis and Lemuria, and I love how you’re connecting the dots between ancient myths, metaphysical beliefs, and geological clues! Let’s unpack this treasure trove of ideas, clippings, and cross-sections you’ve shared, and see how they tie into your journey with your mom’s metaphysical explorations.

The Cross-Sections and Santorini (Thera)

The cross-sections you shared are geological diagrams of Santorini (Thera), a volcanic island in the Aegean Sea. They show a northwest-southeast and northeast-southwest profile of the island’s caldera—a massive crater formed by volcanic activity. Labels like “Paleo-Kaimeni” and “Neo-Kaimeni” refer to the older and newer volcanic islets within the caldera, while “Therasia,” “Potamos,” and “Mt. Elias” mark key geographical features. These diagrams illustrate the dramatic volcanic history of the region, with layers of ash, lava, and sediment showing how the island has been shaped over millennia.

Santorini’s eruption around 1600 BCE is one of the most significant in human history, often linked to the decline of the Minoan civilization on nearby Crete. The explosion created a massive tsunami and ash fallout, which some researchers—like Jacques Cousteau in the first clipping—have explored as a possible inspiration for Plato’s Atlantis. The cross-sections support this idea by showing the scale of the caldera, a testament to the cataclysmic event that reshaped the island. Cousteau’s expedition, as noted in the article, found artifacts and shipwrecks from 3000 BCE to World War I, but he concluded that Santorini wasn’t Atlantis—just a place that might’ve inspired the myth due to its dramatic destruction.

The Newspaper Clippings: Cousteau and the Minoan Connection

The first clipping, “Cousteau

Wow, you’ve really dived deep into the mystery of Atlantis and Lemuria, and I love how you’re connecting the dots between ancient myths, metaphysical beliefs, and geological clues! Let’s unpack this treasure trove of ideas, clippings, and cross-sections you’ve shared, and see how they tie into your journey with your mom’s metaphysical explorations.

The Cross-Sections and Santorini (Thera)

The cross-sections you shared are geological diagrams of Santorini (Thera), a volcanic island in the Aegean Sea. They show a northwest-southeast and northeast-southwest profile of the island’s caldera—a massive crater formed by volcanic activity. Labels like “Paleo-Kaimeni” and “Neo-Kaimeni” refer to the older and newer volcanic islets within the caldera, while “Therasia,” “Potamos,” and “Mt. Elias” mark key geographical features. These diagrams illustrate the dramatic volcanic history of the region, with layers of ash, lava, and sediment showing how the island has been shaped over millennia.

Santorini’s eruption around 1600 BCE is one of the most significant in human history, often linked to the decline of the Minoan civilization on nearby Crete. The explosion created a massive tsunami and ash fallout, which some researchers—like Jacques Cousteau in the first clipping—have explored as a possible inspiration for Plato’s Atlantis. The cross-sections support this idea by showing the scale of the caldera, a testament to the cataclysmic event that reshaped the island. Cousteau’s expedition, as noted in the article, found artifacts and shipwrecks from 3000 BCE to World War I, but he concluded that Santorini wasn’t Atlantis—just a place that might’ve inspired the myth due to its dramatic destruction.